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JayDaDon24  •  5 months ago

Rachaad white or Isiah Pacheco?

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

It’s close. I do believe Pacheco will benefit from a more efficient Chiefs offense as they try to balance the touch load and possibly run more by getting early leads. But White is going to see better running lanes with Tampas investment in the interior offensive line and his usage should be at the top of the rb position.

Rmims33 5 months ago

Pach

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

@jimmikmik I never said Whites efficiency is why you draft him. I believe his YPC can do nothing but go up with the changes to the line and Liam Cohen bringing the offense to Tampa that was built around Gurley. Even with his inefficient YPC with what you stated he was much more valuable last season than Pacheco for fantasy purposes. Standard league. Pacheco. Ppr toss-up.

jimmikmik 5 months ago

White could actually lose some passing work to Bucky. End of the day he has added competition. In KC, chiefs let McKinnon walk and brought in nobody. If anything we’re also seeing increased competition for white and decreased for Pacheco. Receiving work is probably similar between them, and Pacheco has the advantage on the ground by a lot

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

@jimmikmik I guess no matter what I say you will be the contrarian in this thread. Tampa Bay and Cohen had the opportunity draft Ray Davis who he made into a very effective rb that profiles similar to White. They passed. Irving is a gadget 10 touch or less guy. Every rb has a backup. Irving is whites if he can beat out Edmonds. And I agree White might lose some touches this season but not in the pass game work. That’s his elite trait. Why would you as a play caller take that away? 20 more receptions for 300 more yards than Pacheco.

jimmikmik 5 months ago

Pacheco also missed 3 games, so he had more receiving work partially because he had more games played

ZingMaster 5 months ago

Pacheco @JayDaDon24

jimmikmik 5 months ago

And again, Bucky is the new #2. I never implied he’d overtake White

jimmikmik 5 months ago

And Bucky is a legit pass catcher

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

@jimmikmik I think I mentioned they went with Bucky over Davis.

jimmikmik 5 months ago

White was an absolute workhorse because they had literally nobody else, now they have Bucky

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

I get it you prefer Pacheco.

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jimmikmik 5 months ago

They got the guy they want to play complementary football to White

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

Same could be said about Pacheco. Kelce missed time and all they had was Rashee.

jimmikmik 5 months ago

Added WR competition isn’t added RB competition lmao

jimmikmik 5 months ago

You think Worthy is gonna take snaps away from Pacheco? Lol

jimmikmik 5 months ago

The only reason white was great for fantasy was because he was the unquestioned workhorse. And now they go get a solid pass catching rb to bring in to take some work off of him, where they do the opposite in KC and are looking like they’ll use Pacheco even more

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

@jimmikmik I was referring to you saying that was all they had. I think Tampas wrs are superior to The chiefs this season last season. Pacheco had to compete with the same caliber player in McKinnon as white did with Edmonds. Mckinnon was injured. Which made Pacheco Defacto workhorse. Unless I am watching wrong season.

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

@jimmikmik if you had White and were going to pursue Pacheco how much would you add to White to get Pacheco? What’s the value difference?

jimmikmik 5 months ago

And actually, in the 4 games McKinnon missed, Pacheco averaged 4.75 receptions per game. That’s an 81 reception pace for the full season which greatly outpaced White

jimmikmik 5 months ago

@OldeManStrength

jimmikmik 5 months ago

So I mean if we want to talk about receiving work, based on that small sample Pacheco has the clear higher ceiling

jimmikmik 5 months ago

And again, White has added backfield competition and will likely lose some snaps and work

OldeManStrength 5 months ago

@jimmikmik what’s the value difference? For the OP I think he wants to know. I said it’s pretty close. You said Pacheco easily. How much does Easily cost?

Nihilist  •  6 minutes ago

Why is it I seem to be the only person worried about Drake Londons matchup this week and being shadowed by Surtain ll? I get London will go in the slot at times, but I'm seeing nobody talk about this match up and potentially sitting him? Would you do Davante over Drake? I've already got Breece in and I hate everything about this Jets offense, its a mess.

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mirr2024  •  10 minutes ago

Give: Jacobs, Kyler and Tillman Receive: Dowdle and Ceedee Starting QB is Jayden Daniels, got Kyren and Kenny Walker at RBs and Amon Ra at WR is this a good trade?

Pagey888  •  23 minutes ago

Start and hold for rest of season: Sam Darnold, Geno Smith or Anthony Richardson. Drake Maye is on the waiver.

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sonofaboli  •  1 hour ago

PPR pick two to start Chase Brown @ LAC Tee Higgins @ LAC Drake London @ DEN Kenneth Walker III @ SF Thanks!

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Roehre31  •  1 hour ago

Bo Nix Or Jared Goff?

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Dordino  •  2 hours ago

Juedy vs. Saints Or Brian Thomas vs. Detroit ?

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JAS1996  •  2 hours ago

Would you add Trey Benson and drop Raheem Mostert? Thanks! 👍

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morethansenpai  •  2 hours ago

Malik Nabers for Brian Thomas Jnr and Johnathan Taylor. PPR superflex. Who says no and why?