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JayDaDon24  •  1 year ago

Rachaad white or Isiah Pacheco?

jimmikmik 1 year ago

Pacheco easily to me

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

It’s close. I do believe Pacheco will benefit from a more efficient Chiefs offense as they try to balance the touch load and possibly run more by getting early leads. But White is going to see better running lanes with Tampas investment in the interior offensive line and his usage should be at the top of the rb position.

Rmims33 1 year ago

Pach

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

@jimmikmik I never said Whites efficiency is why you draft him. I believe his YPC can do nothing but go up with the changes to the line and Liam Cohen bringing the offense to Tampa that was built around Gurley. Even with his inefficient YPC with what you stated he was much more valuable last season than Pacheco for fantasy purposes. Standard league. Pacheco. Ppr toss-up.

jimmikmik 1 year ago

White could actually lose some passing work to Bucky. End of the day he has added competition. In KC, chiefs let McKinnon walk and brought in nobody. If anything we’re also seeing increased competition for white and decreased for Pacheco. Receiving work is probably similar between them, and Pacheco has the advantage on the ground by a lot

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

@jimmikmik I guess no matter what I say you will be the contrarian in this thread. Tampa Bay and Cohen had the opportunity draft Ray Davis who he made into a very effective rb that profiles similar to White. They passed. Irving is a gadget 10 touch or less guy. Every rb has a backup. Irving is whites if he can beat out Edmonds. And I agree White might lose some touches this season but not in the pass game work. That’s his elite trait. Why would you as a play caller take that away? 20 more receptions for 300 more yards than Pacheco.

jimmikmik 1 year ago

Pacheco also missed 3 games, so he had more receiving work partially because he had more games played

ZingMaster 1 year ago

Pacheco @JayDaDon24

jimmikmik 1 year ago

And again, Bucky is the new #2. I never implied he’d overtake White

jimmikmik 1 year ago

And Bucky is a legit pass catcher

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

@jimmikmik I think I mentioned they went with Bucky over Davis.

jimmikmik 1 year ago

White was an absolute workhorse because they had literally nobody else, now they have Bucky

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

I get it you prefer Pacheco.

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jimmikmik 1 year ago

They got the guy they want to play complementary football to White

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

Same could be said about Pacheco. Kelce missed time and all they had was Rashee.

jimmikmik 1 year ago

Added WR competition isn’t added RB competition lmao

jimmikmik 1 year ago

You think Worthy is gonna take snaps away from Pacheco? Lol

jimmikmik 1 year ago

The only reason white was great for fantasy was because he was the unquestioned workhorse. And now they go get a solid pass catching rb to bring in to take some work off of him, where they do the opposite in KC and are looking like they’ll use Pacheco even more

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

@jimmikmik I was referring to you saying that was all they had. I think Tampas wrs are superior to The chiefs this season last season. Pacheco had to compete with the same caliber player in McKinnon as white did with Edmonds. Mckinnon was injured. Which made Pacheco Defacto workhorse. Unless I am watching wrong season.

OldeManStrength 1 year ago

@jimmikmik if you had White and were going to pursue Pacheco how much would you add to White to get Pacheco? What’s the value difference?

jimmikmik 1 year ago

And actually, in the 4 games McKinnon missed, Pacheco averaged 4.75 receptions per game. That’s an 81 reception pace for the full season which greatly outpaced White

jimmikmik 1 year ago

@OldeManStrength

jimmikmik 1 year ago

So I mean if we want to talk about receiving work, based on that small sample Pacheco has the clear higher ceiling

jimmikmik 1 year ago

And again, White has added backfield competition and will likely lose some snaps and work

wader1234  •  12 minutes ago

Thoughts on this trade? SF 10 man dynasty: A: Nix, Puka, 2.07, 3.09 B: Hurts, Willis, Waddle, T-Mac

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JKman08  •  19 minutes ago

12tm SF TEP PPR: which side? Give: Jordan Love and Orande Gadsden Get: Cam Ward and Saquon Barkley Qbs: Burrow, Love, Danny Dimes, Rodgers TEs: Kittle, Andrews, Likely, Gadsden

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frankdiv95  •  29 minutes ago

I noticed sleeper as a lot of prospects that went back to school. (i.e. Hollywood Smothers) what happens if he gets drafted since Sleeper has him in the rookie pool? Does he get deleted, assuming sleeper updates their player pool?

Canadianrye  •  1 hour ago

10 Team PPR SF dynasty league 🔥 Chuba Hubbard and late 2027 2nd(top 18-20 pick likely) 👍 Early 2027 2nd(top 11-13 pick likely)

Bode960  •  1 hour ago

Anybody taking a chance on Aiyuk? Or is he cooked?

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JasonHuf  •  2 hours ago

Would you trade 2028 1st & 2027 2nd (both projected later) for Odunze ? Or Hurts for Kyler & Odunze? Current QBs: QBs: J Allen J Hurts B Nix W Howard K Cousins Current WRs: C Lamb J Williams DK Metcalf C Watson R Pearsall J Reed C Godwin M Mims I Bond J Royals J Palmer D Slayton

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Yelly23  •  2 hours ago

My RBs are: Jeanty, Bijan, Barkley, Monangai, Mr. Bill (JCM), Kamara, Kaleb Johnson, Brashard Smith, LeQuint Allen I received two trade offers for Bijan, dude trading has Gibbs on his team too. ❤️ 103, 104, Derrick Henry 👍🏽 103 or Olave, 108, Henry, 27’ 2nd 🔥 Bijan

DrSteveBrule2  •  2 hours ago

12T SF PPR 0.5TEP Send: Addison, Richardson, Jordan James, 2028 3rd Receive: Waddle, Colby (I have TFerg)